translate bit flux editor 2 to french

Post by Ludovic Gasc
Hi,
We will translate certainly bxe 2 in french, but I don't see a translation
file, all english messages are in source code.
It's possible that you create a separate file with all messages in bxe ? With
this, it's possible to translate and add easily languages in bit flux.
a default lang option will be added in config.xml.

The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

We certainly can do it, I just don't know the right and best way right now.

chregu

Post by Ludovic Gasc
I can help to realize this task.
Thanks you very much for your response.

Hannes Gassert

2005-07-20 14:47:34 UTC

Post by Christian Stocker
The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

What about using the same schema you already use for i18n in the CMS?

However: That'd be a great feature to have, if we could afford the
(presumably rather big?) effort we would have bought it a long time
ago :-)

Best regards,
Hannes

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Christian Stocker

2005-07-20 14:51:35 UTC

Post by Christian Stocker
The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

What about using the same schema you already use for i18n in the CMS?

Would make sense. It's stolen from cocoon anyway :)

Post by Hannes Gassert
However: That'd be a great feature to have, if we could afford the
(presumably rather big?) effort we would have bought it a long time
ago :-)

- Write a library which does the actual translation
- Search all strings, replace them with the method calls from the library
- Translate

Not that hard, just labour...

chregu

Post by Hannes Gassert
Best regards,
Hannes

Ludovic Gasc

2005-07-20 15:21:11 UTC

Post by Christian Stocker
The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

What about using the same schema you already use for i18n in the CMS?

Would make sense. It's stolen from cocoon anyway :)

Maybe use this, or use xml file convert on javascript file with php.
you choose the method :-)

Post by Hannes Gassert
However: That'd be a great feature to have, if we could afford the
(presumably rather big?) effort we would have bought it a long time
ago :-)

- Write a library which does the actual translation
- Search all strings, replace them with the method calls from the library
- Translate
Not that hard, just labour...

You choose the method.
If it's xml file, I can create php file to convert.
Else, I'm consent to search all strings, replace them with the method calls
from the library and translate in french.

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Christian Stocker

2005-07-20 15:28:49 UTC

Post by Christian Stocker
The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

What about using the same schema you already use for i18n in the CMS?

Would make sense. It's stolen from cocoon anyway :)

Maybe use this, or use xml file convert on javascript file with php.
you choose the method :-)

Post by Hannes Gassert
However: That'd be a great feature to have, if we could afford the
(presumably rather big?) effort we would have bought it a long time
ago :-)

- Write a library which does the actual translation
- Search all strings, replace them with the method calls from the library
- Translate
Not that hard, just labour...

You choose the method.
If it's xml file, I can create php file to convert.
Else, I'm consent to search all strings, replace them with the method calls
from the library and translate in french.

Great, I'll start soon with that. We'll see when I find the time, maybe
next week or so.

chregu

Christian Stocker

2005-07-25 11:14:46 UTC

Hi

Ok, I added i18n support for BXE. The Class is there, but not much more
(read: The needed additions to the JS code and the translations itself
are still missing)

Read http://wiki.bitfluxeditor.org/BXE_2.0/i18n for more details

It's now your turn :)

chregu

Post by Christian Stocker
The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

What about using the same schema you already use for i18n in the CMS?

Would make sense. It's stolen from cocoon anyway :)

Maybe use this, or use xml file convert on javascript file with php.
you choose the method :-)

Post by Hannes Gassert
However: That'd be a great feature to have, if we could afford the
(presumably rather big?) effort we would have bought it a long time
ago :-)

- Write a library which does the actual translation
- Search all strings, replace them with the method calls from the library
- Translate
Not that hard, just labour...

You choose the method.
If it's xml file, I can create php file to convert.
Else, I'm consent to search all strings, replace them with the method calls
from the library and translate in french.

Great, I'll start soon with that. We'll see when I find the time, maybe
next week or so.
chregu

Ludovic Gasc

2005-07-28 15:44:05 UTC

Hi,

I've finish to add i18n function in js/ of bxe source code :-)
Maybe I forget a text.

This mail contains a patch and the french translation (not finish).

Thanks to apply this.

Post by Christian Stocker
Hi
Ok, I added i18n support for BXE. The Class is there, but not much more
(read: The needed additions to the JS code and the translations itself
are still missing)
Read http://wiki.bitfluxeditor.org/BXE_2.0/i18n for more details
It's now your turn :)
chregu

Post by Christian Stocker
The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

What about using the same schema you already use for i18n in the CMS?

Would make sense. It's stolen from cocoon anyway :)

Maybe use this, or use xml file convert on javascript file with php.
you choose the method :-)

Post by Hannes Gassert
However: That'd be a great feature to have, if we could afford the
(presumably rather big?) effort we would have bought it a long time
ago :-)

- Write a library which does the actual translation
- Search all strings, replace them with the method calls from the
library - Translate
Not that hard, just labour...

You choose the method.
If it's xml file, I can create php file to convert.
Else, I'm consent to search all strings, replace them with the method
calls from the library and translate in french.

Great, I'll start soon with that. We'll see when I find the time, maybe
next week or so.
chregu

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Christian Stocker

2005-07-29 09:46:24 UTC

Post by Ludovic Gasc
Hi,
I've finish to add i18n function in js/ of bxe source code :-)
Maybe I forget a text.
This mail contains a patch and the french translation (not finish).

Cool, thanks a lot. It's committed.
And I added you also to the Credits list :)

chregu

Post by Ludovic Gasc
Thanks to apply this.

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Ludovic Gasc

2005-07-20 15:01:14 UTC

Post by Ludovic Gasc
Hi,
We will translate certainly bxe 2 in french, but I don't see a
translation file, all english messages are in source code.
It's possible that you create a separate file with all messages in bxe ?
With this, it's possible to translate and add easily languages in bit
flux. a default lang option will be added in config.xml.

The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

Maybe we use a javascript array with two dimensions :
text["welcome_on_bxe"]["fr"] = "Bienvenue dans BitFlux Editor";
each language is in separate javascript file.

a XML language file is also possible, but maybe it's much slow that a basic
javascript array ? I don't know it's fast to convert a xml file to javascript
array.
How language problem have resolved in bitflux CMS ?
In free software, .po files are used to translate applications.

Post by Christian Stocker
We certainly can do it, I just don't know the right and best way right now.
chregu

Post by Ludovic Gasc
I can help to realize this task.
Thanks you very much for your response.

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Christian Stocker

2005-07-20 15:07:41 UTC

Post by Ludovic Gasc
Hi,
We will translate certainly bxe 2 in french, but I don't see a
translation file, all english messages are in source code.
It's possible that you create a separate file with all messages in bxe ?
With this, it's possible to translate and add easily languages in bit
flux. a default lang option will be added in config.xml.

The question is just, how do we want to integrate it? Just a large
array, which is called? Some XML file? Any suggestion?

text["welcome_on_bxe"]["fr"] = "Bienvenue dans BitFlux Editor";
each language is in separate javascript file.

Why 2 dimensions, if you put each language in a seperate file? You
should only the file/language you need.

Post by Ludovic Gasc
a XML language file is also possible, but maybe it's much slow that a basic
javascript array ? I don't know it's fast to convert a xml file to javascript
array.

We would access that via xpath, don't know about speed, we would have to
test it with large enough datasets. XML is basically just easier to edit
(IMHO), than direct JS arrays.

Another solution would be to provide a converter from the XML to native
JS script. That's easily be done in PHP or your preferred language.

Post by Ludovic Gasc
How language problem have resolved in bitflux CMS ?

with the i18n class. Here's some info
http://wiki.bitflux.org/I18n

Post by Ludovic Gasc
In free software, .po files are used to translate applications.

*Some* free software uses .po :) But that doesn't help here, since the
browser do not understand .po. And it's IMHO not that easy to
edit/generate po files, if you never did it.

chregu