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[b***@lists.bitflux.ch]

G'day all,

Apologies for posting on this subject. I realise this is a FAQ, but I'm
after a bit more info than what I've found on the list archives and
online FAQ so far.

We've been looking at bitflux for something we are working on. It is
very nice, and without a doubt the best on-line editor for our
application (and we looked at lots).

Unfortunately we have a requirement for IE support, as well as Mozilla.
Bitflux is so nice that we are considering using it for Moz support, and
some other poor alternative for IE support. However, it would be nice if
we could use Bitflux for both platforms.

I've seen the info about "in theory, bitflux could be made to work with
IE", but I'm more interested about "in reality". I'm interested in
guestimates as to how much work would be required, and when/if anyone is
likely to make it work. If no-one is interested in making it work, is it
feasible for us to make it work ourselves, and how would we go about it?

It seems to me that by migrating to mozile and eDOM you are getting
further, rather than closer, to a working IE version. Even though it
makes a nice foundation for bitflux, mozile is a mozilla driven project,
and I can't see much interest in making mozile work for IE.

[Donovan Baarda]

Subject: The future of IE support for bitflux?
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:23:19 +1000

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[Christian Stocker]

Hi

Post by b***@lists.bitflux.ch
Apologies for posting on this subject. I realise this is a FAQ, but I'm
after a bit more info than what I've found on the list archives and
online FAQ so far.

no problem.

Post by b***@lists.bitflux.ch
We've been looking at bitflux for something we are working on. It is
very nice, and without a doubt the best on-line editor for our
application (and we looked at lots).

thanks ;)

Post by b***@lists.bitflux.ch
Unfortunately we have a requirement for IE support, as well as Mozilla.
Bitflux is so nice that we are considering using it for Moz support, and
some other poor alternative for IE support. However, it would be nice if
we could use Bitflux for both platforms.

hehe. sure that would be nice...

Post by b***@lists.bitflux.ch
I've seen the info about "in theory, bitflux could be made to work with
IE", but I'm more interested about "in reality". I'm interested in
guestimates as to how much work would be required, and when/if anyone is
likely to make it work.

Can't guestimate at the moment neither the amount of work, nor when
someone does it. We don't have the resources at the moment (finance-wise
and human-resource-wise) to do this.

Post by b***@lists.bitflux.ch
If no-one is interested in making it work, is it
feasible for us to make it work ourselves, and how would we go about it?

Would be great of course. I will release the new BXE Alpha/Foobar
version in the next view days. After that, we certainly can look
together into it.

Post by b***@lists.bitflux.ch
It seems to me that by migrating to mozile and eDOM you are getting
further, rather than closer, to a working IE version. Even though it
makes a nice foundation for bitflux, mozile is a mozilla driven project,
and I can't see much interest in making mozile work for IE.

Depends a little. Mozile uses some Mozilla specific stuff, but not
_that_ much. I think, it's possible to port Mozile, or at least the
relevant parts of it to IE. I just can't remember, how well IE supports
prototypes _and_ "getter","setter" stuff, which we use heavily. IIRC,
prototypes are support, but not the getter/setter thingie. Anyone knows
better?

We are certainly getting closer to IE support than further away, 'cause
we got rid of the XML-rendered-with-CSS approach, but do everything in
(X)HTML on the output. The approach is still the same, just the output
is different.

And mozile,eDOM is just a helper library for us, which made it much
easier to get started. But I implemented a lot of stuff on top of that
and the main functionality is at the moment in BXE and not in Mozile.
Therefore maybe (...) it would be possible to change the mozile stuff
and use an approach, which IE also supports.

Hope that clearifies it a little bit and if you have questions, just ask.

chregu